Buying Your First Radionic Instrument

From talking to different people as well as reading comments on radionic Facebook groups, there are quite a few people, who are new to radionics that are not sure what radionic instrument to buy, which is why I am writing this blog post in order to assist those new to radionics with their choices. This isn’t carved in stone gospel, it’s just my own opinion of what has worked well for me, so take it for what it’s worth.

As I see it, with radionic instruments ( I call them instruments instead of machines, they aren’t machines, in my opinion, a food blender or chainsaw is a machine),  anyway there are the Hieronymus types of instruments,  The electronic radionic instruments such as the SE-5, and the Copen instruments . There are also the Symbolic Radionic Instruments, which are nothing more than a diagram of a circuit of a radionic instrument drawn or printed on cardboard, with a rotating dial, also cardboard. There are plans on the internet on how to build a radionic instrument using a box and a few items from an electronics parts store  I call these “cigar box instruments”) There are the Karl Weltz instruments, The computer operated radionics programs such as the CyberShaman,  Manifestor Pro etc. also a ton of so-called radionic instruments on places such as eBay, in my opinion most are glorified “cigar box instruments” or wishing machines. Will these other so-called radionic instruments work… they will, but if you want to seriously pursue radionics, and use it to balance undesirable conditions, illnesses, pathogens, parasites etc, out of yourself, other people, pets, livestock, plants etc you should get one of the three basic types mentioned above.

Each one of these instruments has their pluses and minuses. I won’t say that any one of them will work any better than the others, they all work, and people who use each type of instrument have had great successes with each type. it’s like an automobile, if you wanted to drive from New York to  San Fransisco, you could get there in a Ford, Toyota, BMW, its more about the person operating the vehicle, and the same goes with radionic instruments, but the three categories of instruments do have their differences and similarities, pros and cons, which I will discuss now.

The first type, and the type that I’m most familiar with are the Hieronymus type instruments. The reason they are called Hieronymus type instruments, is because T. Galen Hieronymus, a well-respected radionics researcher, inventor, and radionics practitioner of the Twentieth Century, took the radionics instruments that were around then and redesigned them to make them more accurate and easier to use. The Hieronymus instruments for sale today follow his design, but some have been improved upon.

 

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KRT Personal Instrument

 

OK, what are the pros and cons of the Hieronymus instruments, first the pros.

  • Affordable, usually less expensive than some other types of instruments
  • A large database of rates. The Kelly Rate Book has over 10,000 rates.
  • Most can be grounded
  • Most have jacks that you can plug other radionic accessories into
  • Training classes available for these instruments
  • Very accurate, can be fine tuned
  • Most basic models today are two or three  bank, but tuning banks can be added to give you as many banks as you need.
  • Many have a built-in potentizer
  • Can be used without electricity, but when used with electricity, broadcast is amplified.
  • You can add optional accessories to most of them such as signal generators, extra-large witness wells, tuning banks, powerful antennas.
  • According to Hieronymus, his instruments, as well as all Hieronymus type instruments today that use capacitors instead of resistors are more accurate.
  • KRT Radionics offers four different models from $4750.00 for their Workstation to $1450.00 for their Personal Instrument
  • KRT sells a Windows computer program they call an “Electronic Rate Book” which is searchable, and contains over 10,000 rates.

Now the cons, fortunately I can’t think of very many cons for the Hieronymus system.

  • Some people have difficulty obtaining a “stick” using the stick pad. Most people can learn to get a stick with some practice, but for those that can’t they can use a pendulum instead, for some reason more people can get a pendulum to work for them than can get a stick on a radionic instrument.
  • The instruments built today aren’t very portable, especially if they are grounded, they are basically made to be set up and left in one dedicated location. Some of the earlier instruments were made to be portable such as the Mattioda briefcase instrument, or some of the early Hieronymus 1 bank instruments that were encased in a wooden box with a cover and a carrying handle, unfortunately these instruments haven’t been built for thirty or forty years, and the only places you can find them now are on places such as eBay.  But you can buy cases that you could put the Kelly personal Instrument in to carry it around. Would be nice if they designed Hieronymus instruments with a battery compartment, in case you wanted to power them up when away from an electrical source. That having been said you could rig up a 9 volt battery in a battery holder and plug that into the instrument for temporary  power.
  • These types of instruments are not as “technologically advanced” as some of the others, they do not have a built-in computer, some would see this as a limitation, but I see it as less things to go wrong.
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Next on the list is the SE-5 1000 electronic radionic instrument. Here are the pros:

  • Highly portable,  it’s small, it fits into its own case and can be taken anywhere.
  • The SE-5 1000 kit comes with almost everything that you would need to get started, including a digital camera/printer, built-in potenizer, and laptop computer depending on the package you purchase one has a laptop one doesn’t, and there are other accessories that you are able  to purchase separately,
  • You can use the Hieronymus rates, and or Base 10 rates, comes with 50 loaded programs, plus additional programs that you can purchase.
  • Has a battery compartment, so you can use the SE-5 1000 away from electrical power.
  • The SE-5 1000 company offers advanced training courses on DVD, that you are able to purchase separately.  As well as live training courses. There is also a free beginner’s  training DVD included in kit.
  • You get two hours of personal training with purchase either by Skype or phone
  • Comes with computer software and usb cord connection. Apparently you can control and set up the SE-5 1000 using the laptop as well as access many thousands of “tunings’ on the laptop.
  • You are able to run multiple rates at the same time, as well as control the length of times these rates and programs run.
  • The SE-5 100 website has a lot of information, books, videos etc.
  • Can be used independently of the laptop as a standalone unit.

Here are the cons of the SE-5 1000 system:

  •     The SE-5 1000 comes with a one year software and hardware warranty, to me that’s not a positive thing. If I’m going to buy one of these units, and spend about $5000.00 I would like it to have a longer warranty period (3-5 years). Other radionic instrument manufacturers such as KRT, will replace or repair defective equipment as long as you own it.
  • The price tag. To buy one of these SE-5 1000 kits it will cost you $4695.00 without the laptop or $4995.00 with the laptop. These prices are in US currency, and are accurate as of March 2018. I’m not saying the SE-5 1000, and all of the accessories that come with it isn’t worth those prices. What I’m saying is that many people starting out in radionics may not have or may not  want to spend that amount of money on an instrument, at first .
  • The SE-5 1000 is basically a small computer, and because it’s a sensitive electronic device, it’s not as forgiving as some of the other types of radionics instruments. Static electricity could be a problem,  also if you were doing any kind of work outdoors in damp weather, you may also run into problems.
  • The SE-5 1000 isn’t made to be grounded, as some other radionic instruments are. Some may say ” so what if you can’t ground it”. I am a firm believer that a radionic instrument should be grounded if your dong work on someone or something other than yourself. Here is a quote from Marty Lucas’s website about grounding ” If the instrument is not grounded properly, that means the phase conjugate wave will dissipate into the information field of the operator.”  Which means if the instrument isn’t grounded the phase conjugate wave and any energy good or bad will return to the operator of the instrument, which is you. Do I have proof of this…No, but grounding a radionics instrument is something that is done by many experienced operators, including me. These are available through the SE-5 1000 website http://www.se-5.com/

The next instruments I will be reviewing are the radionic instruments  made by CopenLabs Ltd. in the United Kingdom.

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The pros of the Copen instrument:

  • These instruments are well made high quality instruments
  • CopenLabs Ltd. offer four different models of radionic instruments ranging in price from $7500.00 for their top of the line “Care ND System” to their MK12 portable unit at $2600.00
  • The Care ND System comes with a laptop with the Care Program software installed.
  • Their computer database is searchable, meaning if you want to find the rates for a “Cold” you would type cold into the program and obtain all the rates in the system for a cold.
  • Care ND users get free software updates when they become available
  • Homeopathic remedies can be made with each model
  • These units have an internal memory that can store a large database of analysis/balancing information.
  • CopenLabs offer various accessories that can be purchased separately and used with their Radionic  instruments.

Now for the cons:

  • These instruments are not made to be grounded, to some that wouldn’t be a concern, to me it is. I explain the reason why in the section on the SE-5 1000.
  • I did not see any training classes offered for use of these radionic instruments on the CopenLabs Ltd. website.
  • The Copen instruments aren’t made to use the Hieronymus type rates, the same as the Kelly instruments aren’t made to use Base 10 rates. This may or may not be an issue, depending on which system of rates you prefer to use.
  • I didn’t see what kind of warranty they have on their instruments while reading their website, but there is a number that you can call for further information.
  • They are pricey, well  made, but pricey,  for a radionics newbie, the MK12 portable unit at $2600.00 which isn’t too bad for a good quality instrument.
  • According to the CopenLabs ltd. website there is a company in Mexico which sells “low quality fake CopenLabs products” Something to look out for. The Copen instruments are available through their website  https://www.holistictherapypractice.com/online/41/Copen-Radionic-Equipment.html

The three types of radionic instruments mentioned here, the Hieronymus type, the SE-5 1000, and the Copen instruments are the most popular and most widely used radionic instruments in the world today.

The only manufacturer that I know of that builds and sells the Hieronymus type instruments in 2018 is KRT ( Kelly Reasearch Technologies). I bought two instruments from them and can say first hand they are a pleasure to do business with. Their main concerns , in my opinion are to build good quality instruments and that they have happy customers.

I have never dealt personally with Don paris and the SE-5 1000 people, so cannot say what they are like. I do own an older SE-5, which I bought used, I have used it and know it works, but prefer the Hieronymus type instruments, but that’s only my personal opinion. I know people who love using the SE-5’s

I have never bought or used a Copen instrument, the information I have on this blog about them was obtained by  reading the information available on the internet about them.

Which instrument is the best. I can’t say, it all comes down to personal preference, how much you want to spend, what you plan to do with the instrument. I mentioned before that my preference is the Hieronymus type instrument . I find it to be a good basic system that suits my needs. You may prefer the SE-5 1000, or one of the Copen instruments.  I hope by writing this blog I’ve helped you make a choice,  especially if your new to radionics.

15 thoughts on “Buying Your First Radionic Instrument

  1. Thanks you for your entrance! really usefull for people who start to getting into radionic. I’m a farmer, and I would like to buy a radionic instrument to test in the camp.
    could you point any Hieronymus instrument ? I make a search into ebay and nothing clear which instrument should I buy for this porpuse.

    Thank you very much!!
    joan

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    1. KRT now also builds a instrument which is portable and uses Malcolm Rae Cards.
      This instrument is built for Hugh Lovel at Quantom Agruculture. It is designed especially for agriculture. You could contact KRT or Hugh Lovel.

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  2. I run the Facebook group: CopenLabs Radionic Users Group and have had a close association with the company over the years I have used Copen instruments in my practice. You have clearly illustrated some great units with good reputations built over many years. I greatly respect the work that has gone into their design and development. Although I can’t speak for CopenLabs, I would like to add a few bits of update information on the CopenLabs units with regard to some of the points you raise. The Copen name has been used over the years as a seal of quality by companies who have no association with Bruce Copen at all. There was a company in Mexico that was using the Copenlabs name and Logo on their instruments and even giving Bruce’s address in Danehilll Sussex as their address. The company was asked to stop this and they complied, but it is always wise to check if you are wanting a genuine CopenLabs unit to ensure it is the UK company: you will always see the contact details at the top of CopenLabs page. The company is also registered with Companies House so that is another way of checking legitimacy. Another of the ‘pro’s’ of Copen instruments is the ability to store rates and formulas on EECS cards (in units with the EECS system) which can be erased and re-coded with up to 15 rates. This was a new innovation in radionics by Bruce Copen. With regard to the grounding issue, all Copen units that used a direct mains connection were grounded via the earth wire of the cable. The later instruments have an external adapter so the circuitry was redesigned to compensate for this which I understand involved incorporating Schumann resonance so an ‘energy link’ is made to earth in the absence of a physical one. I hope these few notes add appropriately to what is a most useful blog.

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  3. I thought you would like to know that Scott Ertl is now manufacturing Hieronymous style instruments and accessories. You can contact him at inifinitymission@gmail.com for details. He is just starting out so not all of his designs are in manufacturing status just yet but soon will be, but some products are already available. You should check them out. He is manufacturing them under the Lightning name, but they are different from the old Lightning instruments which are no longer manufactured.
    The Spark radionic broadcasting pod, the Flash external tuning units, external wells, and signal generators are available. He is about to start the first run of suitcase instruments, called the Strike.
    He has 2 other insrument designs planned, hopefully to be available this summer or fall. All of his instruments may be grounded with a ground separate from the electrical ground.

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  4. Does that mean they are no longer being manufactured? It would be a shame if that were so. My first instrument was a Rogers instrument. I wish I still had it.

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  5. Am a good user of copenlabs instruments for up to six years now with huge success built by BARRY CRAFT and a good friend of RODNEY ROBINSON on facebook. I do firmly attest that buying copenlabs instruments is 96% assurance of it’s functionings and durabilities but procuring the copen instruments from another company that bears the same becomes a serious concern to the buyer. Please if any who intends to make purchase of copenlabs instruments can contact BARRY CRAFT- he is the owner that bears original BRUCE COPEN COMPANY others are COPIED/REFURBISH.

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  6. HI
    My friend is using se-5 instrument. It has no grounding option..what is the alternative for grounding in se-5 instrument and what is the necessity for grounding a radionic instrument??

    Thank you.

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    1. Hi kv I also have an SE-5, and they do not have an option for grounding. The problem with using an uingrounded radionic instrument when using it to balance energies in someone or something else, is that those energies can return from the subject in question and effect you. When an instrument is ground the returning energies are dissipated into the ground. If you are using the SE-5 on yourself only, then this is of no concern.

      There are a couple things you can do to “ground” an instrument such as the SE-5. Here is a page from my blog that explains your options
      https://radionicsspectro.com/2017/03/04/the-importance-of-grounding-a-radionic-instrument/

      Hope this helps

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